And anything under 350whp people have the option of romtunes which is sorda like an EMS.to an extent but definately not as versatile. i sleep better knowing that my ecu isn't being tricked to do what i want, instead i'd rather have an ecu that is completely standalone and nothing being the middle man with my $$$ motor. That's why you see so many people dumping 10+ G's on an engine setup only pushing 400-500whp when other platforms spend that much and end up with 600-700 ya know? IMO reliable horsepower isn't using a piggyback to run 350+whp. If you've been in this community long enough, you'll realize that *most* people in here (here as in the US, Canada etc etc) chose to go for reliable horsepower. Either they do and dont go online sharing the results, or they don't use it because they see it the same way i see it, money that could be put aside towards an EMS. I never stated that reason as i don't know why other people don't use it. What i said was, "there's probably a good reason why no one's used it". People are probably not trying it due to your unfounded bashing of the unit, it's not really a fair review IMHO. I want to see a thread where someone has actually tried and was not succesful. It's pessimistic to have that view as to why no MR2s don't use it. You don't need the pressure sensor unless you run out of air flow value on the blue, we've yet to need one yet for this purpose. Primarily I just want to get that air meter out of there.Īre the IGN and RPM adapters required for the MR2?
I am going to install one on my MR2 when I'm ready. We have the e-manage blue and e-manage ultimate installed on turbo converted eclipses, turbo suzuki swifts, turbo charged Toyota land cruiser we've yet to find a vehicle that it does not work good on. It's probably not best to be using the S-AFC on a turbo vehicle because manipulating your air flow signal excessively will undoubtedly have an impact on other things your ECU does. IMHO I feel that S-AFC is a toy and should only be used on BPU setups such as naturally aspirated situations where your just installing intake/headers/exhaust etc. While I completely agree replacing your ECU or flashing your ECU is the ideal situation, not everyone's power requirements call for doing such a thing where a piggyback would suffice to dramatically make a huge impact with controlling injectors and timing.
The E-Manage Ultimate is still a tad bit expensive, you can find the unit for $550 and the harness for about $75 which is a total of $620 for the full solution since the E-Manage Ultimate comes with the CD already. Most reputable tuners have the e-manage tool these days to program it which is an additional $100. You can pretty much get an E-Manage blue with injector and ignition harness for about $360. If it were me.i wouldn't pay 800 just to be restricted to the ECU, i'd rather save the extra few hundred to get the proper EMS. a piggyback is NOT the proper tuning source or else we'll be seeing a thread asking about motor rebuilds.Īlso, the 400-600 you see these things sell for is just for the unit, if you look into all the extra accessories that you need and add that into the cost, you're looking at 700-800. If you plan to use large injectors, get an EMS and have it properly tuned. That's a bit pessmistic, do you have any threads where anyone has documented their experiences good or bad with the e-manage? I have yet to see good emanage setup on an mr2 to date and the ultimate is *supposedly* capable of adjusting some timing however. This is true to a point sense, but with the injector correction with the injector harness bypasses what the ECU is doing with the injectors. What other questions do you guys specifically have about the e-manage?īoth are piggybacks and as such, are limited by the ECU just like the safc and every other piggy back on the planet. While there is a lot of debate about which way is the best to meter air, it's still an option.
Also the nice thing about the Ultimate is that it will allow you to eliminate your MAS in favor of a MAP type setup.
I'm still a little new with the Ultimate myself, but instead of assigning fuel correction to all injectors with the blue you can do each individual injector with the Ultimate. The e-manage blue needs the injector and ignition harness to really be worth the money. You have to do that with bending your MAS signal much like an AFC would which is the basic setup of the e-manage blue. The e-manage blue can only control the injector pulse by grounding out the signal longer to keep the injectors open longer, it does not however control the injectors by taking away fuel. The e-manage blue I think can only control the injectors that are twice as big over stock. The e-manage is a piggyback but in some aspects it has stand alone functions.